Re: Origin of Transformers ?
Transforming toys were around years before Hasbro decided it needed a cartoon to sell there version of toys,.. Branded by them as "Transformers" (to compete with mattels gobots,)..they have peddeled there wares for the last 30,.. so prior to 83 ( takes generally a year to make'm thats why there stamped 83 or in the case of diaclone earlier dates IE.. Ops trailer will show two dates 80to82 and can be stamped takara or takara and hasbro ) add the production time for the cartoon series, offically Transformes didnt exsist till then (84),... being as most G1 series/season 1 toys were taken from other lines this splits collectors as to what is a true "transformes" piece in some circles diaclone vs hasbros releases.... IE diaclon battle convoy or optimus prime early G1 primes used the battle convoy toy redecaled, and are different from later releases of the same toy in numerous to suttle ways, as are soundwave,megatron etc...
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