Combiner Wars G2 Bruticus mold changes?
 

I got G2 Bruticus yesterday. I never got regular Onslaught, but I do have Hot Spot. Were his knees changed? Are they misassembled? They're not behaving the same as Hot Spots did.

Anyone else notice this or am I just a dumb dumb?

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Might be the same issue as Victorion...

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What's the issue with Victorian?

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In Pyra Magna (torso), the knees that have those double-joints have this weird tab that doesn't let them lock in.

I heard from WTF@TFW that this was done for stability in combined mode, but it means that Pyra's knees are kind of loose.

I don't have any Onslaught, but I have Hot Spot, and it doesn't have this, and the knees are much more solid.

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If you look, the tab on Pyra Magna vs Hot Shot/Onslaught is installed BACKWARDS. The little nub is on all versions of the mold, but an assembly error for Pyra doesn't allow her knee joints to correctly transform in robot mode.

I can't speak for G2 Onslaught, but I have the regular Onslaught and the knee struts function identically to Hot Spot.


Here's a site that shows the Magna error and a couple fixes. http://brickonator.tumblr.com/post/1...magna-knee-fix

Here's a photo from TFformers that shows the error:

http://tformers.net/g/generated/2911...scaled_600.jpg

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Okay, I just dug out Hot Spot, and they are, in fact assembled differently. There are pins involved, so I'm not sure how fixible it is. I will try to futz when I have more time and report back.

I don't want to just trim the funny tab off, because it does provide internal support when in combined mode.

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Let me know if you come up with anything. I'm probably going to trim it but now that you mention it I want to take a closer look at how it interacts in torso mode. =P

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Damn it, I have no idea how to deal with pins... looks like he might stay misassembled.

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Don't try to do anything with the pins. No matter what you do it won't work. I tried eveything like that on Victorion and no matter what it wouldn't work. I did actually shave off the small peices and it didn't affect anything. She is perfectly stable without them

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Yeah, pin=bad news.

I trimmed, he's better now. The little tab thing DOES provide some internal support when the leg is collapsed, but it was very minor and not missed. And it wasn't doing it's job when it was in backwards anyways.

Thanks for the info, everyone!

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No prob. I can see on Hot Spot where the tab does provide some support but it really doesn't even seem to be a big deal on the misassembled Vicky.

I took apart the thighs and put them back together without modding. My only real problem is the screwheads were pains and I had to be extremely careful, even using my micro screwdrivers. It will be a pain to pull them back out as the heads partially stripped. I'll have another go at it later and shave those tabs. Thanks Venom and Uberman.

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Now I'm wondering if this is a widespread issue on G2 Bruticus as well as on Victorion...

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Ugh, my apologies for spamming. Went in and did the fix. Shaved off easily. Don't have any issues in combined mode. Robot mode is stable.

Only real thing is the screws are not going to be easy to take out again if I need to. The soft screwheads easily stripped.

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One trick is using a small head soldering gun from circuit board repairs and using the tip to heat the pin just enough to slide it out. You need needlnose pliers and a firm grip. The only issue here is that if you heat too much and apply force sideways the pin can melt right through the peg hole walls. You MUST pull pin out straight. To reassemble simplly reheat the pin in grip of needlenose and push back in. If done right it causes minimal damage and can fix the issues at hand. Patience and a solid plan on where to grab and when to pull is vital.
Too soon and you get pin stuck halfway and have to reheat and risk sidewall melting, too late and the plastic around pin becomes molten and liquifies away.
Ive tried it a few times on junkers. Tried and suceeded only a few times out of manyvtries.
On second thought... dont try it.

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LOL

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Kinda like a teacher describing calculus and then saying " on second thought, youll never use this so heres a pass" ;)

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Lol.

Picked up my g2 bruticus. I can vouch that my onslaught also has the backwards knee strut. Giving it the ol' exactly knife treatment in a bit.

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I'm a bit confused.... my Onslaught has the nubs shown in the link photos but his knees lock in perfectly fine.
Ha! I guess mine were assembled correctly. I misunderstood the angle the website photo was taken from.
http://www.weestudios.com/stuff/Onslaught.jpg

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The knobs are supposed to be there but on G2 Onslaught and on Victoria on the strut is assembled incorrectly. Hotspot and onslaught have the Nubs in a place where they don't interfere with the knee locking gears. The backwards Nubs prevent the knee strut from going forward enough to lock it without breaking the toy.

The nubs on your pictures onslaught are the correct assembly. :)

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It looks like UW Onslaught doesn't have this issue, looking at the photos...but you never know until it's in hand.

Stuff like this is just a pain in the ass, but at least the trim fix works.